View Full Version : TBS or E-RAM??? Worth it or NOT???
midnitesky
02-10-2007, 04:11 PM
Now as you may know, I've been doing some in-depth research about what simple mods I may be able to do that will improve the performance in any way form or fashion. I did order the normal things (i.e. CAI, cat-backs, and such) but one of the things I did order was a TBS, which was later shown to me (thanx ANTMAG06), that it really would not do much for us being that our engines are ported... (Atomization and such)... I checked out the design of the engine and he was right… So I started to look more... and this is what I found.
The only way that something could increase performance with our engines is if it (cold air) were forced down the intake... now short of making major changes (Turbo, Supercharger) which I'm not ready to do at this time, I found something that I would like the family (this forum) to look at and give me your opinion on.
Electric Superchargers... it forces the air down the throat at full acceleration and doesn't hinder the air flow when idle... PLEASE check out this web site and give me your thoughts on the product. http://www.electricsupercharger.com/index.shtml (http://www.electricsupercharger.com/index.shtml)
I need to know if this would be worth the money spent... unlike the TBS I just bought...
Thanks people.
SILVERRT
02-10-2007, 08:06 PM
Hmm.... I don't know...could be interesting.
Daytona 226
02-10-2007, 09:53 PM
Looks pretty cool.
The T.B.S. is a waste. I have it, and unless you want to "HEAR" the air being sucked in, I could not justify it being there! Absolutely NO difference. It sounds exactly like a loose fan belt, no joking! If I didn't pay so much for it, I would have taken it out by now. I read posts about it having no effect, but had already ordered it, like you did. Hope this helps.
Daytona 226
Daytona 226
02-10-2007, 10:04 PM
Hey midnitesky,
Not to get off subject, but where did you get your Zoomers? Did you order direct? I need a set real bad!
Thanks,
Daytona 226
midnitesky
02-11-2007, 05:33 AM
Hey midnitesky,
Not to get off subject, but where did you get your Zoomers? Did you order direct? I need a set real bad!
Thanks,
Daytona 226
I order them direct... http://www.zoomersexhaust.com/vehicle_dodge_charger_rt.asp
called the guys right up and they shipped it out to me... was on sale too so hurry... those guys really try to work with you...
Daytona 226
02-11-2007, 09:51 AM
Thank you! I'm on it!
Daytona 226
midnitesky
02-12-2007, 10:18 AM
Thank you! I'm on it!
Daytona 226
I just got my Zoomers in the mail today!! Now all I need is my CHARGER!!! :mad: :D
SILVERRT
02-12-2007, 10:21 AM
I think thats a first.... Modding the car before you even have it!:D:D:D
Nice!
midnitesky
02-12-2007, 10:26 AM
You just don't know... got the CAI, Zoomers, TBS(which I'm sending back), and looking for what ever else I can buy for it now to put on as soon as I get the car... got to be ready... and get it while the wife is still nodding her head yes:D
zxe003
02-12-2007, 08:18 PM
You just don't know... got the CAI, Zoomers, TBS(which I'm sending back), and looking for what ever else I can buy for it now to put on as soon as I get the car... got to be ready... and get it while the wife is still nodding her head yes:D
You gotta do what you gotta do!!
GoMango
02-28-2007, 10:57 AM
Now as you may know, I've been doing some in-depth research about what simple mods I may be able to do that will improve the performance in any way form or fashion. I did order the normal things (i.e. CAI, cat-backs, and such) but one of the things I did order was a TBS, which was later shown to me (thanx ANTMAG06), that it really would not do much for us being that our engines are ported... (Atomization and such)... I checked out the design of the engine and he was right… So I started to look more... and this is what I found.
The only way that something could increase performance with our engines is if it (cold air) were forced down the intake... now short of making major changes (Turbo, Supercharger) which I'm not ready to do at this time, I found something that I would like the family (this forum) to look at and give me your opinion on.
Electric Superchargers... it forces the air down the throat at full acceleration and doesn't hinder the air flow when idle... PLEASE check out this web site and give me your thoughts on the product. http://www.electricsupercharger.com/index.shtml (http://www.electricsupercharger.com/index.shtml)
I need to know if this would be worth the money spent... unlike the TBS I just bought...
Thanks people.
The problem with any electric supercharger is that to be positively effective (actually create boosted air pressure at full throttle) for a 5.7L engine, it would need at least a 20 hp motor (as per a super charger). Perhaps something like the motors driving the blow dryers at the car wash. At about 746 watts per hp, that's 14920 watts for 20 hp. 14290w/12v = 1243 amps. You may need a trailer to haul the power plant to run it.
thunderhand
02-28-2007, 12:43 PM
What does TBS stand for??
Stubbie68
02-28-2007, 04:09 PM
Hey Thunderhand,
A TBS is a Throttle Body Spacer. Like a dope I bought one before I read the posts here. Evidentally, it's supposed to cause the air flowing into the engine to vortex causing better atomization of the fuel air mixture before it enters the combustion chamber. With our cars and the way they are designed we are already achieving that so it's a waste of money. I was going to try to send it back but already had it on the car so....
Did I explain it well enough fellas?????
Stubbie68
midnitesky
03-02-2007, 11:53 AM
The problem with any electric supercharger is that to be positively effective (actually create boosted air pressure at full throttle) for a 5.7L engine, it would need at least a 20 hp motor (as per a super charger). Perhaps something like the motors driving the blow dryers at the car wash. At about 746 watts per hp, that's 14920 watts for 20 hp. 14290w/12v = 1243 amps. You may need a trailer to haul the power plant to run it.
OK so I take it it's a bad idea... well back to the drawing board...
midnitesky
03-02-2007, 12:03 PM
Hey Thunderhand,
A TBS is a Throttle Body Spacer. Like a dope I bought one before I read the posts here. Evidentally, it's supposed to cause the air flowing into the engine to vortex causing better atomization of the fuel air mixture before it enters the combustion chamber. With our cars and the way they are designed we are already achieving that so it's a waste of money. I was going to try to send it back but already had it on the car so....
Did I explain it well enough fellas?????
Stubbie68
To the T stubbie... to the T...
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