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STOCK HID (D3S) bulbs swapped out !

After many hours of research and unknowns, an HID bulb swap CAN BE DONE ! (For Chargers that come with stock HID projectors)
Through all the hours of research I have done, and with the help of a friend the stock bulbs in the stock projector CAN BE SWAPPED ! There is a secret to it, and my good friend has shown me how to do it. There are no special tools needed, but a lot of patience, and slim fingers goes a long way.

1. Open hood and locate the "dust cover" for your headlight bulb.
2. Remove "dust cover" by twisting it off.
3. Feel into the projector opening, and you will feel a square base for your stock bulb.
4.Just in front of the base of the HID is a black ring with "ledges" or I call them finger catches. This is what you need to put pressure on to turn the ring. (if you face the car from the front, the ring needs to be turned to the left) DO NOT APPLY TOO MUCH PRESSURE. Just enough to feel the ring turn. THIS IS ONLY A LOCKING RING....NOT SOMETHING YOU NEED TO TWIST AROUND AND AROUND. Maybe less than a quarter turn will release the bulb)
5. After turning the ring, push base downward. NOT TOO MUCH PRESSURE). The bulb should come out along with ring.
6. Disconnect wire from bulb.
7. Slide the stock HID bulb out at the bottom of the ring.
8. Slide in new D3S bulb (connector to bulb facing downward)
9. Now is the tricky part. PATTIENCE IS NEEDED HERE. At the top of the ring (opposite of the opening where you slid the bulb in, there is squarish cut out in the ring) This is where the notch on the rubber grommet on the D3S bulb should be placed. There is a tab on the ring that slides into that rubber grommet. This locks the bulb in place so it will not move.
10. Return ring with bulb to opening of projector. Connector on bulb should be facing down put it into the projector opening and turn slightly to the left if you are doing this from directly in front of the car. Push lightly in and turn to the right. The ring should be locked in place. It may take a few tries, as it took me a few times to get the ring in the slot and locked in place.
This is for my 2013 Dodge Charger Daytona. If you decided to do this, do it at your own risk. If you are not comfortable enough, take your car to a reputable shop and have them do it. Ask first if they have any experience with this.
NOT an easy job, but well worth it. I have attached pics for you to reference. The pic of my car is where you can see color closely matched with HID.
I originally had a shop put in 8K bulbs, and they refused to tell me how it was done. (Don't know why...maybe they were pissed because they had a hard time figuring it out and had to remove my fascia). One of the bulbs went out that night, so went to a friend today to learn how to remove and swap. I now have 6K. For some reason the 8K bulbs after being installed were shining with a big purple tinge through the projector lens) 6K is closer to match my LED fogs.
I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU BREAK SOMETHING, but I take all the credit if this helps you and IT WORKS ! LOL !
 

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Sorry Bullish....I know how you feel. I'm hard headed so I had to find out for myself to be 100% sure that it could not be done. But after thinking about your message, I had to see what my friend knew. I wish too that WE had figured this out before you did yours. Thanks for the reps brother ! Much appreciated. I hope this will help others...
 

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I'll post a night pic when I can......it's still 4pm here in Hawaii.

UPDATE: Can't take a pic....color doesn't come out right. White light with slight blue tinge is what the color looks like.
 

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Ok...so...I finally got a pic. You can tell how white the HID's are. NO MORE YELLOW !!! Matches with the LED fogs.
 

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I ordered the LED's off of ebay. The stock fogs are like; I call them "old flashlight bulbs". They are very dim and downright cheap looking. When you install LED's they are bright, but NOT for fog light use. They are pretty much for looks...but they look good !
 

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Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead but I just came back from a failed attempt to remove my HIDs.
I feel the locking ring and the two finger tabs but I couldn't get it to budge with all my might.
It's almost impossible to get a screw driver in there but I managed to get one on the drivers side, underneath the passenger side "finger" tab and I pulled up as hard as I could but it wouldn't budge.

You mentioned putting pressure on the ring to get it to rotate?
How?
I tried pushing forward while attempting to turn it (also very difficult) but I got nothing.
 

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you can literally pull your front fascia in about 10 minutes. There are plenty of instructions on youtube. After that, pull each headlight out, 4 screws each, and change your bulbs. It will save you frustration and knuckle scrapes. Good luck.
 

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STOCK HID (D3S) bulbs swapped out !

After many hours of research and unknowns, an HID bulb swap CAN BE DONE ! (For Chargers that come with stock HID projectors)
Through all the hours of research I have done, and with the help of a friend the stock bulbs in the stock projector CAN BE SWAPPED ! There is a secret to it, and my good friend has shown me how to do it. There are no special tools needed, but a lot of patience, and slim fingers goes a long way.

1. Open hood and locate the "dust cover" for your headlight bulb.
2. Remove "dust cover" by twisting it off.
3. Feel into the projector opening, and you will feel a square base for your stock bulb.
4.Just in front of the base of the HID is a black ring with "ledges" or I call them finger catches. This is what you need to put pressure on to turn the ring. (if you face the car from the front, the ring needs to be turned to the left) DO NOT APPLY TOO MUCH PRESSURE. Just enough to feel the ring turn. THIS IS ONLY A LOCKING RING....NOT SOMETHING YOU NEED TO TWIST AROUND AND AROUND. Maybe less than a quarter turn will release the bulb)
5. After turning the ring, push base downward. NOT TOO MUCH PRESSURE). The bulb should come out along with ring.
6. Disconnect wire from bulb.
7. Slide the stock HID bulb out at the bottom of the ring.
8. Slide in new D3S bulb (connector to bulb facing downward)
9. Now is the tricky part. PATTIENCE IS NEEDED HERE. At the top of the ring (opposite of the opening where you slid the bulb in, there is squarish cut out in the ring) This is where the notch on the rubber grommet on the D3S bulb should be placed. There is a tab on the ring that slides into that rubber grommet. This locks the bulb in place so it will not move.
10. Return ring with bulb to opening of projector. Connector on bulb should be facing down put it into the projector opening and turn slightly to the left if you are doing this from directly in front of the car. Push lightly in and turn to the right. The ring should be locked in place. It may take a few tries, as it took me a few times to get the ring in the slot and locked in place.
This is for my 2013 Dodge Charger Daytona. If you decided to do this, do it at your own risk. If you are not comfortable enough, take your car to a reputable shop and have them do it. Ask first if they have any experience with this.
NOT an easy job, but well worth it. I have attached pics for you to reference. The pic of my car is where you can see color closely matched with HID.
I originally had a shop put in 8K bulbs, and they refused to tell me how it was done. (Don't know why...maybe they were pissed because they had a hard time figuring it out and had to remove my fascia). One of the bulbs went out that night, so went to a friend today to learn how to remove and swap. I now have 6K. For some reason the 8K bulbs after being installed were shining with a big purple tinge through the projector lens) 6K is closer to match my LED fogs.
I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY IF YOU BREAK SOMETHING, but I take all the credit if this helps you and IT WORKS ! LOL !
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This retaining clip is a pain the A..! I damaged the passenger side albeit it is still usable the driver side is difficult to clamp or pinch to release the bulb.
 

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Your insight and instructions made it possible for me to replace the passenger side HID bulb on my 2013 Charger R/T. It took six or more tries and a few hours to get the bulb out but I did. I almost gave up as I was shredding my knuckles and forearm on sheetmetal. But I got it out. It went back in slightly easier, and this even took 3 tries to get it to lock. But it did lock in place. I was skeptical about being able to do it. But with the Dodge dealer quoting me $350 parts and labor per bulb; I figured I'd give it a try. I used aftermarket bulbs which from Amazon which were around $40/pr with a 2-year warranty. I figured worse case was I'd use these a training exercise and get the OEM Osram at a later date as they are slightly more than double the price. But with what it took to replace this one, as long as it comes on and stays on; I'll stick with these. At least I know I can do it. Next weekend I may tackle the driver's side. I've always replaced bulbs in pairs. Thanks for the detailed instructions and pictures. They were most helpful.
 

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Your insight and instructions made it possible for me to replace the passenger side HID bulb on my 2013 Charger R/T. It took six or more tries and a few hours to get the bulb out but I did. I almost gave up as I was shredding my knuckles and forearm on sheetmetal. But I got it out. It went back in slightly easier, and this even took 3 tries to get it to lock. But it did lock in place. I was skeptical about being able to do it. But with the Dodge dealer quoting me $350 parts and labor per bulb; I figured I'd give it a try. I used aftermarket bulbs which from Amazon which were around $40/pr with a 2-year warranty. I figured worse case was I'd use these a training exercise and get the OEM Osram at a later date as they are slightly more than double the price. But with what it took to replace this one, as long as it comes on and stays on; I'll stick with these. At least I know I can do it. Next weekend I may tackle the driver's side. I've always replaced bulbs in pairs. Thanks for the detailed instructions and pictures. They were most helpful.
What bulbs did you buy? Just got quoted for 237 a bulb and 46 in labor from a dealership. That's just outrageous. 40 sounds a lot better. Any help would be appreciated.
 

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does anyone knows the difference in color temps?

I know it's a three year old post but.... new guy who is a concert lighting director here.

color temperatures are measured in kelvins, that determines where on the spectrum the white is that you're seeing. If you look at an incadescent lamp while you're outdoors, you can easily tell the difference. Your brain tricks you into not seeing the difference...

incadescent light has a yellowish color temperature. It's usually 3200k

Sunlight filtered through the atmosphere is 5500k because it has more blue in the spectrum.
So moving through the spectrum through the violets, we get to 8K, which is the purple tinted lamps.
 

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What bulbs did you buy? Just got quoted for 237 a bulb and 46 in labor from a dealership. That's just outrageous. 40 sounds a lot better. Any help would be appreciated.
Yeah, I'm late to the party also....
But I also want to know what bulbs you all used. I want to get away from that yellowish look, and have the bright white, that has just a tinge of blue. (I have a Daytona blue car, so I think the blueish hue would look good)
 
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