so, mid life crisis kicked in. my wife passed away a few years ago. my oldest boy will be getting his license soon. time to ditch the 2019 pacifica. who knows if i'll make i to retirement. i was looking at '18-'20 used scatpacks. they either have high mileage or high price, or both, so no go. i started looking at new ones, and contacted a few dealers that showed stock to see fi they would honor employee discount. they all said no. i contacted my employing dealer, and they said if i order it, then yes they will honor it. basically, i'll be paying a hair over what the used ones were, and it won't have been beaten on. i went with: go mango, carbon stripes, red calipers, harmon kardon, power sunroof, plus package, convenience package. i put $1k down on 09/26. they said 8-10 weeks. we'll see how true that is. the brampton plant was closed last week. not sure if it has reopened. my luck, i'll get it right as the snow starts to fall! i'll mostly be lurking. my signature shows everything i have already purchased for the car. obviously, the tinit won't happen unitl it arrives!!