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Hello all, I believe this is my first post so apologies if I break any rules.
I have a 2008 dodge charger SXT, AWD, 3.5lt engine with near 200k miles on it. I mostly use it to go to the train station or to the supermarket, not a hard driver myself.
when this whole covid19 started I was left working from home and the car stored in the garage. One good day I heard a noise from one of the wheels and thats when my voyage of DIY started with my beloved car.
All was well until I decided to change the spark plugs and coils. I took the intake manifold out and changed the spark plugs (NGK zfr5lp-13g). I then reassembled everything the best I could following torque specifications for every spark, bolt, etc. I replaced the plenum gasket for a new one and the EGR tube gasket also for a new blue one. When I started the car I could hear a strange noise that I later identified as the classic vacuum leak sound, I also saw some smoke coming from the back of the manifold near the EGR tube and I saw the gasket was clearly not installed correctly and created the leak, maybe that was also the reason for the smoke??? Anyways the idle was very rough like about to stall and I got codes P2173 (vacuum leak), P0171 (system too lean bank1) and P0174 (fuel sustem 2/1 lean).....My thought was that I F***** the EGR tube.
So... I took everything out again, this time I even removed the windshield wipers to have more room, got a new EGR valve which I installed with its new metal gaskets and everything, I made sure the EGR gasket in the tube was in the correct position and followed/read plenty of tutorials and tips on how to install it into the plenum (Im waiting to get this red RTV to completely seal the connection between the plenum and the EGR tube just in case).... and so after some time installing all back again I started the engine once more....
Now the strange vacuum leak sound was gone but the engine had still this rough idle and I saw again some smoke coming from the EGR pipe area, after around 5 minutes the engine died and now I got codes P050B (cold start ignition timing performance) and P0300 (random/multiple cylinder misfire detected).
And now I’m clueless, if the vacuum leak had persisted I would have expected the same set of codes from the first try.
some things to note
please help with any ideas
I have a 2008 dodge charger SXT, AWD, 3.5lt engine with near 200k miles on it. I mostly use it to go to the train station or to the supermarket, not a hard driver myself.
when this whole covid19 started I was left working from home and the car stored in the garage. One good day I heard a noise from one of the wheels and thats when my voyage of DIY started with my beloved car.
All was well until I decided to change the spark plugs and coils. I took the intake manifold out and changed the spark plugs (NGK zfr5lp-13g). I then reassembled everything the best I could following torque specifications for every spark, bolt, etc. I replaced the plenum gasket for a new one and the EGR tube gasket also for a new blue one. When I started the car I could hear a strange noise that I later identified as the classic vacuum leak sound, I also saw some smoke coming from the back of the manifold near the EGR tube and I saw the gasket was clearly not installed correctly and created the leak, maybe that was also the reason for the smoke??? Anyways the idle was very rough like about to stall and I got codes P2173 (vacuum leak), P0171 (system too lean bank1) and P0174 (fuel sustem 2/1 lean).....My thought was that I F***** the EGR tube.
So... I took everything out again, this time I even removed the windshield wipers to have more room, got a new EGR valve which I installed with its new metal gaskets and everything, I made sure the EGR gasket in the tube was in the correct position and followed/read plenty of tutorials and tips on how to install it into the plenum (Im waiting to get this red RTV to completely seal the connection between the plenum and the EGR tube just in case).... and so after some time installing all back again I started the engine once more....
Now the strange vacuum leak sound was gone but the engine had still this rough idle and I saw again some smoke coming from the EGR pipe area, after around 5 minutes the engine died and now I got codes P050B (cold start ignition timing performance) and P0300 (random/multiple cylinder misfire detected).
And now I’m clueless, if the vacuum leak had persisted I would have expected the same set of codes from the first try.
some things to note
- electrical connectors were really frozen, I had a tough time disconnecting the ones near the throtle body
- Maybe I have one bolt from the EGR tube not tight enough, I will try to tighten it tonight.
please help with any ideas
- do I still have a major vacuum leak in the EGR?
- did I f***** one of the connectors or sensors?
- did I get a cheap plenum gasket and I have leaks in every valve now?